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Post by CJenkin » Wed May 09, 2007 10:58 pm

I don't really understand the dynamics of what was going on at the time (perhaps we never will) but the first earl after the conquest was Brian a count of Brittany from Penthievre and interestingly called Botterell. The family were closely linked to the Breton royal family and may have had a dynastic claim on Cornwall and it's sovereignty. For some reason, possibly the death or revolt of Brian the Earldom was transferred to Robert Count of Mortain in William's family circle by 1086. Interestingly the Boterell's are established in North Cornwall by 1100 establishing Boscastle and another family member I think is briefly earl.

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Post by TGG » Thu May 10, 2007 2:18 am

Many thanks! That sent me on an interesting quest. It seems from this site that the Cornish estates were not granted to Robert until 1072 after Brian decided to return home!! However, as you say, it is unlikely that we shall ever know the dynamics!

Subsequent events, however, seem to point to a favourable accommodation of Cornwall - for whatever reason - and history is as much about what is not written as that which is.

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:01 pm

Fourth World: Resurgent Nations in the New Europe: http://www.britannica.com/eb/art-64701?articleTypeId=5

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:32 pm

Demat deoc'h,

E miz Genver en doa bet lavaret gant Geobreizh e vo moulet ar poster nevez anvet "Breizh, 9 bro, 9 departamant, 1.500 kumun". Moulet hon eus anezhañ bremañ. Kartenn Breizh gentañ eo gant an holl kumunioù dre vro. Gallout a rit prenañ anezhañ war-eeun war hol lec'hienn genrouedad www.geobreizh.com/breizh/bre/poster.asp

Great maps of Breizh if you are wondering.

Click the link and have a look; it'd be good to see some similar poster maps of Our Duchy.

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:56 pm



The Atlas of True Names has us down as the Cape of Strangers. After having grown up in Glasney I can confirm the appropriateness of this designation.

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Post by Gwenver » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:48 pm

Well done, Fulub! I came onto the C24 site – after reading today’s Independent – to see if anyone had spotted coverage of this irritating map.

Alas, this crap map appeared in the Independent today. The work of a master Quigley, it would seem to focus on the original meaning of ENGLISH names, which is why it describes our land as the Cape of Strangers and Wales as the Land of Strangers.
It is an absolute cheek! Let no one buy it for Christmas!!

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Post by Marhak » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:44 pm

I note that Master Quigley has even translated personal names e.g. Brighton (Beorhthelms' farmstead") as "Bright Helmet's town" and Birmingham ("homestead of Beorma's people/family") as "Bear Guard home".

I find the Duchy of Cornwall's holdings map highly interesting. We knew that the Duchy owns the rivers and foreshores west of the Tamar's east bank but this map shows Duchy ownership of the rivers of the South Hams as well.

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Post by Nosdan » Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:51 pm

What does seem odd... Is he's translated Lizard point in to High Court point...

Now we know of the technicalities in calling that from Marhak, Its neither High or likely that a court occurred there. Even if its the (sort of) excepted Cornish translation.

But when has it ever meant that in English (Saxon)?

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Post by Fulub-le-Breton » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:52 pm

A curious selection of linguistic maps to be found on this site: http://www.muturzikin.com/carteeurope.htm

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